Hi Dale, Several years ago my friend at Independence bought a FlyBaby. He asked me to help him make it fly better. It would fly level 75 MPH at 2300RPM and power off stalls were "BAD" at 55MPH . And it took a lot of forward pressure and about half left stick to cruse at the 75 MPH. We don't have the planes so I leveled the airplane using a carpenters level under wing root rib. Then checked the left wing at the bottom of the last rib. It was flat no twist or wash out. The right wing was washed in or had the leading edge higher than the trailing edge. I readjusted the cables so that both wings have wash out (wing twisted down at tip) with level bubbles with a 1" block on top of a 30" level at the last rib. To fly level at 90 MPH indicated and 2150 RPM it was a little nose heavy needed just a little back pressure. So I took out one turn on the turn barrels to relive just a little of the wash out. Now it flies level 90 MPH indicated at 2150 RPM hands off and power off stalls straight ahead at 35 MPH indicated. The point is you can adjust the trim with wing wash out. Dale E Still wrote: > FlyBaby > > For those of you already flying: I am curious as to whether the lack of > an elevator trim system is a problem. Do you find yourself constantly > holding stick pressure? I do not want to have one of those > afterthought-ugly trim tabs bolted on. Anybody tried using a "bungee" > system that pulls on the cables for trim? > dale