"James E. Hardy" wrote: > > FlyBaby Howdy everybody. I'm in the restoration stage of a 30 year old > bird. I've just done the weight and balance and though it balances, I > was discouraged by the total weight. What are you people seeing for > your empty weights. I've got a C-85, no generator, no starter, and a > closed pressure cowl. thanks. . . .jim Mine has an empty weight of 805 lbs. It has a C-85 with full electrical system (starter, generator, battery, Nav/Com, transponder, lights) and an open cowling. It's overbuilt in a number of ways...quarter-inch plywood, 0.040 aluminum. Ron Wanttaja