Hey Guys   I have had just about enough of the various HTML/MAC/WINDOWS?WHATEVER/ computer says ya cant do that lists.   the guys that run tham have done an EXCELENT job of keeping things going, and they have put one hell of a lot of work into thier lists.   What I just did is get PI$$ed of at a server that wouldnt let tell the guys about a $250 lycosauris core for sale, and another that wouldnt let me post project news to a list, so I started one of my own.   The rules are, there are no rules!!!!   the list is (pietbuilders)oldplanes. --use the regular listbot commands---   Pietbuilder is because I have done 2, and am just about to start on the 3rd (after 6 months of project looking---oh well, at least its a classic) and oldplanes because thats the best kind. Aint one of us here that learned ta fly on a new plane, so oldplanes it is.   I hope it will end up as a lot of hanger-flying, builder-advise, bullshit flying stories. It is completley unmoderated, just like the local hanger (nobody likes the FAA hanging around)   Grab a beer, pull up and old tire and have fun.   Mike --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Airplanes dont fly on gas, they fly on money. The more money you throw at them, the faster they fly.   IHA 110