I just read my own post.. what am I, nuts,-- of course it wouldnt look half bad- thats a vp-1 imitating a flybaby. Sheesh, late nights must be getting to me. <grin> Mike -----Original Message----- From: Mike Lund <crafters@elgin.net> To: FlyBaby <FlyBaby@listbot.com> Date: Thursday, December 02, 1999 6:04 PM Subject: Re: Fly Baby Fakers (was Fly Baby vs. Volksplane) >FlyBaby > >Thanks Ron- I just got time to look at the pics. That foo fighter is kinda >neat, sorta an anorexic aircobra <grin> > >Heres a couple pics of a VP-1 that I was going to follow had I gone the VP-1 >route. Maybee a "stock" flybaby with the paint job and turtledeck/ headrest >wouldn't look half bad. > >http://members.theglobe.com/VPRic/glen1.jpg > >http://members.theglobe.com/VPRic/glens.jpg > >(if I did this right the picture should open in a browser window. If I did >it wrong my computer will probably self-destruct and you'll never read this >;-) > >The reason I am looking into aperances now rather than when its really >apropriate is the climate around here, and the appearance will affect my >choice of glues. HOT humid summers and c-c-c-cold winters. (I am on the >north shore of lake erie.) > >A light paint job, with a superstructure that can have good air movement and >I will probably use one of the one part "gorrila grip" type glues (I >actually have lepages in mind). and an epoxy (I still have a bit of west >system) for the laminations. > >If I commit to a darker color in the summer sun I have to look elswhere for >something that wont soften in the heat. > >Mike > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ron Wanttaja <ikvamar@gte.net> >To: FlyBaby <FlyBaby@listbot.com> >Date: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 9:27 PM >Subject: Re: Fly Baby Fakers (was Fly Baby vs. Volksplane) > > >>FlyBaby >> >>Frank Stutzman wrote: >>> >>> FlyBaby >>> >>> On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Mike Lund wrote: >>> >>> > Besides, it saves me the trouble of making a VP-1 look like a >flybaby--now I >>> > can make a flybaby look like a P-26 <grin> >>> >>> One of the thoughts I had with my FB project (quick status update: I >>> bought the plans a year ago ;-). To do it right you kinda have to change >>> the landing gear, IMO. I know its been done ala the PT-22 which is close >>> enough for me. Has anyone here done it or seen it done (I have the >>> pictures that came with the plans, but there really isn't much detail to >>> be seen). >> >>Since I've got computer drawings of the Fly Baby, I tend to do a lot of >>"doodling" on how it might look with a little cosmetic help. >> >>I did some thinking on the faux P-26 notion a couple of years >>back...adding the stringers and standoffs to the fuselage to round it, >>with a fake radial cowl around the Continental like they do with the >>fake Fokkers. I took one of my computer drawings of the Fly Baby and >>fiddled with the standoffs and such. The result didn't look too close >>to a P-26, alas...in fact, didn't look too good at ALL. >> >>The PT-22 gear does let you have shock absorbing gear, but the biggest >>problem is that the wing has to be modified to take the landing loads. >>Typically, that means a box spar in a stub wing. As you might expect, >>this engenders some interface difficulties when you do to the "normal" >>wing outboard. A couple of years ago, a friend of mine once was >>considering buying the rights for the design from Pete. He asked what >>could be done to "snazz" it up, so I made one of my quickie drawings >>with the shock-aborbing gear. I called it the "Fly Baby 1C," but that's >>neither an official designation nor something that went beyond the >>sketches. >> >>Feeling REAL weird one night, I decided to try make a 'Baby look >>somewhat like a Spitfire. So I assumed a Subaru engine (running it >>forward to get the long-nose look), shifted the cockpit back (to balance >>the engine and contribute to the long-nose look) and added the Ryan-type >>gear. Turned out fairly weird-looking...and not too reminicient of the >>Spitfire. Called it a "Foo Fighter" instead. >> >>Anyway, don't know if Listbox supports attachments, but I've added these >>old drawings as Jpeg file attachments. Lemme know if it doesn't work, >>and I'll stick 'em on a corner of the web page or something. Keep in >>mind that these are just doodles, not engineering sketches. >> >>Best Faux Fly Baby idea I've heard was from somebody planning on a GEE >>BEE look. Remember, the Granville Brothers didn't just build the R1 and >>R2...there were other models with longer, more graceful fuselages that >>were a bit reminicient of the 'Baby. >> >>Ron Wanttaja >> >> > > >